OBRC Bonanza at BAT

[Double02]

Far into OBRC territory here. You've been warned - no apologies and no complaints about wasting your time looking at ugly cars :D

'77 Fiat 128 - Why drive a Lada when you can have the real thing?

http://bringatrailer.com/2009/11/22/1977-fiat-rally-128-special-abarth-look-coupe/

'71 Datsun 510 coupe - My Datsun can only dream...

http://bringatrailer.com/2009/11/22/63k-original-miles-the-right-1971-datsun-510/

'75 Cosworth Vega - Think Euro--hip Smokey and the Bandit (expecting mucho flak on this one)

http://bringatrailer.com/2009/11/22/clean-and-original-1975-cosworth-vega/

'69 Toyota Corona - Makes me think about another trip to California

http://bringatrailer.com/2009/11/21/80k-mile-blue-plate-survivor-1969-toyota-corona/

[E_cars]

Like the Fiat.
Love the Cosworth Vega.
datsun 510, has potential, needs a lot to be cool though.
Corona looks cool, but a dog I'm sure.

[B10er]

I like the Corona best by far, though the auto would prevent me from actually buying it if I had the cash.

The 510 is pretty cool.

The Vega pretty cool for a domestic.

The Fiat, amazing, doesn't do much.

[jkcma]

I too like the Corona...the engine bay is so clean, also say no to automatic.

The 510 I like a lot. I used to own a red 510 in my younger days. Great car.

Cosworth Vega is rare, but small domestic is not my cup of tea.

Fiat, fix it again Tony doesn't do much either.

[16v of E30]

Fix It Again Tony.
FIAT.

[Bimmer_Racer]

I would love that Corona. I would molest the power train with something with more oomph and manual gear selection, but other than that, perfect.

[jkcma]

How about this M6?

http://bringatrailer.com/2009/11/16/bat-exclusive-clean-1988-bmw-m6/

[Double02]

How about this M6?

http://bringatrailer.com/2009/11/16/bat-exclusive-clean-1988-bmw-m6/

M6 is way too mainstream for an OBRC thread John.

Not getting the lack of interest in the Fiat but to each their own. Here's a car that's been fully restored and autocross prepped by a Fiat nut. Club award winner. Puts over 170 hp to the wheels while weighing about 1700 lb. Styling is from the same group that spread to early Bimmers, the Datsun 510, and the Eastern Bloc classics. Guy likely has $30k in the car and you can pick it up for under $10k. I'd lose the goofy stickers and rock this.

Only down side I can see is the FWD, since the long time ownership by the Fiat nut should have addressed all the stereotypical Fiat issues and made this car no worse than any other 30+ year old car. Having said that, it does have less weirdness factor than the Vega or Saab 96, and is substantially pricer than, and not as good looking as the Corona.

Paul - you are showing your OBRC sympathies. Come out of the closet and join the club!

[B10er]

Not BAT, but I want...

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/cto/1477936429.html

[E_cars]

Has trouble running.

So it's like new condition .......... :D

[Double02]

Not BAT, but I want...

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/van/cto/1477936429.html

Yeah I saw that one too. This one isn't even demonic. Good to know they keep popping up all the time for when I have space.

[Son of Lars]

That 144 is awesome! Some IPD suspension goodies, B230FT from 740 turbo, 15" wheels from same 740 turbo, crank up the boost, and have serious fun!

[Double02]

Italian on the menu today...

For interest only since it's in California and has sold already: 1968 Fiat 124 - boxy, slow, very basic, but I like these.

http://bringatrailer.com/2009/12/07/italian-box-car-3-owner-1968-fiat-124-sedan/

Locally, this 1982 Lancia Zagato Beta, if you are looking for a great looking but soul destroying money pit of mechanical unreliability and rusty doom. A crazy girlfriend would likely be cheaper and more satisfying in the long run. Nice to see a local Lancia turn up though.

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pml/cto/1497027386.html

No details, and no photo but this is a shot of a nice one from Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lancia_Beta_Spider_red_vl_TCE.jpg

[Double02]

Awesome 16k mile Audi original Quattro. mmmmmmm.

http://bringatrailer.com/2009/12/09/super-clean-16k-miler-1983-audi-ur-quattro/

[Son of Lars]

Awesome 16k mile Audi original Quattro. mmmmmmm.

http://bringatrailer.com/2009/12/09/super-clean-16k-miler-1983-audi-ur-quattro/



2 things. I don't think it qualifies as OBRC. Its an Audi Quattro, talk about a HUGE following! Also, BaT lists it as a Ur-Quattro, but its not. Its a regular old US spec coupe quattro. Still rarish, but a genuine Ur-Quattro is a rare as all hell, and worth a pile of cash. They had the shortened wheelbase, etc.

[Double02]

2 things. I don't think it qualifies as OBRC. Its an Audi Quattro, talk about a HUGE following! Also, BaT lists it as a Ur-Quattro, but its not. Its a regular old US spec coupe quattro. Still rarish, but a genuine Ur-Quattro is a rare as all hell, and worth a pile of cash. They had the shortened wheelbase, etc.

I realize it's just a regular Quattro, but I'd still argue for it. Huge following in Europe, but hardly on the radar in North America these days as far as I know. Of course I don't lurk on any Audi forums so if you show me a bunch of Quattro clubs I'd have to back down.

edit: did a bit of Quattro research, and apparently Quattro and ur-Quattro are used interchangeably for the first generation quattro-equipped coupes produced 1981-90. Only something like 650 of these in NA from 1983-86 The short wheelbase version is known as the Sport Quattro, and was a Group B homologation.

I've sent a proposed first draft of admissible cars to Chris for his comments. Would be fun to circulate the draft through the group, let everyone think about it, then sit around with the group to argue the cars on the list, preferably fueled by alcohol. I think the current rules state cars get in with a vote from 50%+1 of the membership, so with the current 6 members, each car would need 4 yes votes to get in. Worth floating the idea on the club page?

[B10er]

We have 6 members?

My 2 cents - in real life, if some random dude show up with a Quattro and wants to 'hang', I for one won't give him a punch in the head. It's boxy and dorky enough, not to mention mechanically costly enough to qualify.

I realize it's just a regular Quattro, but I'd still argue for it. Huge following in Europe, but hardly on the radar in North America these days as far as I know. Of course I don't lurk on any Audi forums so if you show me a bunch of Quattro clubs I'd have to back down.

I've sent a proposed first draft of admissible cars to Chris for his comments. Would be fun to circulate the draft through the group, let everyone think about it, then sit around with the group to argue the cars on the list, preferably fueled by alcohol. I think the current rules state cars get in with a vote from 50%+1 of the membership, so with the current 6 members, each car would need 4 yes votes to get in. Worth floating the idea on the club page?

[Double02]

We have 6 members?

Yep, 6 members strong - you, me, Al, Kirin, Blake and Ryan Cole. Check out the page under Social Groups (find under Quick Links on the menu bar). You need to add a shot of the Skoda and a few other choice OBRC candidates to the album in any case.

[Son of Lars]

I'd punch a Quattro coupe owner in the head. My vote goes to no for allowing those cars in. If you allow the coupe quattro, then the Coupe GT is next, and then its all downhill into Audi Dudiville. I hate those cars. haha

[E_cars]

There's only one reason why i hate Audi's with a passion.

It's because I owned 2.

The first one was a mistake and the second one was to see if they were all that bad. Yes they are all that bad!!! They were both turbos, and performed decent, but I would never want one again. Nothing ever wears out, everything just all of a sudden breaks.

[Son of Lars]

There's only one reason why i hate Audi's with a passion.

It's because I owned 2.

The first one was a mistake and the second one was to see if they were all that bad. Yes they are all that bad!!! They were both turbos, and performed decent, but I would never want one again. Nothing ever wears out, everything just all of a sudden breaks.


The one reason that I hate Audi with a passion, is that I used to work for them. Imagine fixing Germany's crappiest car, day in and day out, for 4 years.

We used to joke about them in the dealer, by saying "Audis never break down, they will always get you to the repair shop".

Al

[Double02]

Just because I haven't put one up in a while...

Putting only 23,000 miles on a 1979 Prelude has to be some kind of delusional record. Did he forget it behind a pile of boxes? Still liking that 70s Japanese stuff...

http://bringatrailer.com/2009/12/28/23k-mile-survivor-first-year-1979-honda-prelude/

[B10er]

The Consensus on BAT is pretty negative, including the guy who just writes haikus...

[Double02]

The Consensus on BAT is pretty negative, including the guy who just writes haikus...

What do they know, they love 60s British stuff? I do like the haiku.

I agree the price is totally out to lunch. For that price I'd pick up that 1968 Toyota on the local CL and drop in a modern engine for something 100x cooler. But since I don't imagine anyone taking most of these entries seriously around here, I don't worry about the price. And, complaining that it is slow and boring to drive is beside the point, since almost any 70s Japanese car is slow.

[Double02]

Chris,

I respectfully demand you call this guy and check it out.

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rds/cto/1528027997.html

[Double02]

They just keep coming. I love BAT but it is constantly tormenting me. 1979 SAAB, from when they actually made cool cars.

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/01/03/52k-mile-survivor-blue-plate-1979-saab-99-gl/

I'll just have to keep admiring from afar until some sane person takes one of my other cars off my hands, allowing my obscure classics disease to progress to the advanced stage.

[B10er]

Back off Bruce...that's my SAAB!!!

By the way, can someone please lend me $4900???

They just keep coming. I love BAT but it is constantly tormenting me. 1979 SAAB, from when they actually made cool cars.

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/01/03/52k-mile-survivor-blue-plate-1979-saab-99-gl/

I'll just have to keep admiring from afar until some sane person takes one of my other cars off my hands, allowing my obscure classics disease to progress to the advanced stage.

[Double02]

Back off Bruce...that's my SAAB!!!

By the way, can someone please lend me $4900???

It's all yours Chris, I'd love to see it locally and can't swing it at present. You might have to put up with me harrassing you on a regular basis to sell it to me though.

Once you have it, you could do scientific tests to determine how many people could distinguish between a SAAB and a Skoda.

Haven't you learned anything about loans between BCBimmers members?

[Double02]

More for entertainment and educational value than anything else since it pricey and in Florida, but how about this 1968 Renault R10. Quite the looker.

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/01/20/squeaky-clean-1968-renault-r10/

There is a sporty R8 in the Thaw, and I'm looking forward to checking it out.

[applecran]

so. sweet.

[B10er]

yes please!

[Double02]

1979 Autobianchi A112 Abarth. So excellent. Would make for a fun road trip back from Texas.

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/01/22/rare-in-the-usa-1979-autobianchi-a112-abarth/

[Double02]

Paging Chris...this 1978 e12

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/02/01/bat-exclusive-honest-1978-bmw-e12-530i/

So it isn't an OCAC car, but still BAT. There are also high-level executive discussions involving changes at the OCAC that would allow cars like this. More to come on this later...

Looks like a very nicely preserved example. You have to love Californian cars.


Or for something completely different, this vintage Capri racecar

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/01/30/underappreciated-1972-ford-capri-racer-project/

[jkcma]

The e12 should sell fast.

[Double02]

Hey, it's Minty's French cousin...1971 Renault R10

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/02/08/rare-restored-example-1971-renault-r10-sedan/

It's even in Canada already, although far away in Toronto. Price is high enough that you'd have to be pretty into Renaults too.

[Double02]

Now here is an obscure one - 1961 Panhard. I don't think I've ever seen one of these anywhere.

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/02/11/rally-heritage-rare-1961-panhard-pl17/

Not too expensive, and close, if you (or more likely your girlfriend) is looking for a tiny girly cartoon car.

[Double02]

1969 Opel Kadett

For educational purposes since it is upwards of $16k and far away. Why do so many cool cars seem to live in North Carolina?

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/02/22/18-again-restored-1969-opel-kadett-rallye/

Hard to believe that Chevettes shared this platform, but this car explains the soft spot I have for old Chevettes.

[Double02]

OK, not a CECC car, but I'm putting it in for sheer awesomeness - 1973 International Wagonmaster

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/03/03/24-hours-to-live-1973-international-wagonmaster/

70s, ultra-square, dual round headlights, pre-EPA smog regs and 5 mph impact bumpers. Awesome. Too bad the version for sale doesn't have the stick-on wood paneling look.

[Double02]

What do you know? An e30 makes the cut at BaT. Nice looking iX.

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/03/08/non-quattro-minty-58k-mile-1988-bmw-325ix/

Applecran - we'll be expecting your membership application shortly. I'm expecting club stickers to arrive this week and clearly one would look great right in front of that Hoffmeister kink.

[Double02]

OK, much more interesting and fun potential for $4500. 1968 Simca.

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/03/08/event-ready-sorted-1968-simca-1000/

Would be a long drive but oh so cool and obnoxious.

[Double02]

Courtesy of SaabNet - this '68 Saab 96

One of these days I'm going to have to pick up something like this 'for the wife'. Mmmmm, shiny!

http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/class/ci.php3?ph=photos/7047/1

Color: Red Trans: Manual Mileage: 0 Price: $6700

This is an extraordinary "find". This 3 owner fully documented car has more NOS parts with ZERO miles than any I've EVER seen or heard about.The last owner spent a small fortune on his dream car with a rebuilt and BALANCED engine built by one of the North Wests premiere shops. The transmission was rebuilt by Bud Clark.The rebuild included virtually unobtanium parts NEW rubber & hoses CV joints,Ashcraft 34 ICH Weber carb. Interior is 9 out of 10 with no rips or tears. Dash cap is cracked.Fresh tune and fluids ready for a coast to cost trip & I would be happy to deliver this car ANYWHERE in North America for expenses :-)

Contact: Robert OMea, Lake Oswego OR
Email: Click Here
Phone: 503-916-9676

[jkcma]

Do want

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/04/12/bat-exclusive-1973-lotus-europa-twin-cam/

is 1973 Lotus Europa Twin-Cam Special is the last and most developed version of the model with the desirable Lotus Twin-Cam engine and 5-speed transmission. It was fully restored with the body off in the 1990’s. The car features the 1600cc big-valve engine, the up-rated European head, and dual Weber carbs. $14k obo

http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/1973_Lotus_Europa_Twin_Cam_Special_For_Sale_Front_ 1.jpg
http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/1973_Lotus_Europa_Twin_Cam_Special_For_Sale_Rear_1 .jpg
http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/1973_Lotus_Europa_Twin_Cam_Special_For_Sale_Interi or_1.jpg
http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/1973_Lotus_Europa_Twin_Cam_Special_For_Sale_Engine _1.jpg

The seller's personal website: http://members.cox.net/brian.mix/lotus/europa.htm

[Double02]

Chris,

Why oh why does this offer have to come up now (courtesy of SaabNet)?

1968 Saab 96 V4 (Posted 4/19/2010)

Color: Gray Trans: Manual Mileage: 85,239 Price: $2,500
1968 Saab 96. V4 engine. Original owner. Some door rust. Only driven in the summer during the last 38 years. Always kept under cover. Runs well. Car presently in Alaska-will relocate to Bellingham, Washington. Can send photos. Mint 1971 Model 99 concurrently advertised. Make an offer to buy both.
Contact: John Aspnes, Fairbanks AK
Email: Click Here
Phone: 907-479-6483

1971 Saab 99 4-door (Posted 4/19/2010)

Color: tan Trans: Manual Mileage: 27,011 Price: $6,000
1971 Saab 99. Mint Condition. Has been in one family since new. Shop manual included. Original tires replaced three years ago. Driven only in summer conditions. Always kept under cover. Runs well. Car presently in Alaska-will relocate to Bellingham, Washington. Can send photos. 1968 Saab 96 V4 concurrently advertised. Make an offer to buy both

Perfect opportunity to get them both and take turns at ownership. Sandra really digs these so if it weren't for the M5 would have been down for this. Damn.

On the plus side, it is reassuring that these keep turning up. I have asked for photos and will update if the guy comes through.

Damn.

[B10er]

Let's make an offer for both Bruce!

Bellingham is what...20mins from my place - I'll go for the 99...you the 96 - its a win win!

Chris,

Why oh why does this offer have to come up now (courtesy of SaabNet)?

1968 Saab 96 V4 (Posted 4/19/2010)

Color: Gray Trans: Manual Mileage: 85,239 Price: $2,500
1968 Saab 96. V4 engine. Original owner. Some door rust. Only driven in the summer during the last 38 years. Always kept under cover. Runs well. Car presently in Alaska-will relocate to Bellingham, Washington. Can send photos. Mint 1971 Model 99 concurrently advertised. Make an offer to buy both.
Contact: John Aspnes, Fairbanks AK
Email: Click Here
Phone: 907-479-6483

1971 Saab 99 4-door (Posted 4/19/2010)

Color: tan Trans: Manual Mileage: 27,011 Price: $6,000
1971 Saab 99. Mint Condition. Has been in one family since new. Shop manual included. Original tires replaced three years ago. Driven only in summer conditions. Always kept under cover. Runs well. Car presently in Alaska-will relocate to Bellingham, Washington. Can send photos. 1968 Saab 96 V4 concurrently advertised. Make an offer to buy both

Perfect opportunity to get them both and take turns at ownership. Sandra really digs these so if it weren't for the M5 would have been down for this. Damn.

On the plus side, it is reassuring that these keep turning up. I have asked for photos and will update if the guy comes through.

Damn.

[B10er]

I likey...

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/04/20/alitalia-dreamin-1979-fiat-brava-2-door/

[Double02]

Not for sale, just a Targa Tasmania link with Volvo 122 content. A volvo in Gulf livery (my favourite) - who would have thought...

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/04/28/bat-approved-targa-tasmania-volvo-122s/

[Double02]

1980 Scirocco

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/05/28/bat-exclusive-1980-vw-scirocco-s-turbo-project/

Rather far away and needs a bit of love, but lots of goodies for the price. Mostly I just think it's a good looking car

1973 CSL

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/05/28/salvaged-lightweight-1973-bmw-3-0csl/

Over $50k already on eBay for a rebuilt title too. What a beauty.

[Double02]

No updates here for a while, so how about these? Too far away but under other circumstances I might be interested in either.

1971 stripped out Volvo 142:
http://bringatrailer.com/2010/07/03/smooth-brick-excellent-1971-volvo-142s/

1966 Fiat 1100D Wagon:
http://bringatrailer.com/2010/07/03/turn-key-1966-fiat-1100d-wagon/

Volvo almost ready to go as-is. The wagon has lots of tuning potential from faster (relatively speaking) members of the Fiat family.

[B10er]

Oooooooo...!

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/07/28/39k-mile-survivor-1972-bmw-bavaria/comment-page-1/#comment-168262

[Double02]

Oooooooo...!

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/07/28/39k-mile-survivor-1972-bmw-bavaria/comment-page-1/#comment-168262

I'm always surprised at the lack of enthusiasm for BMWs of almost any description on BAT. They love muscle cars, trucks, Porsches, almost anything British, and go compleletely nuts over anything Italian. But, aside from 02s, BMWs generally get neutral to hostile comments.

This Bav is looking pretty nice.

[e30bimmer]

Oooooooo...!

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/07/28/39k-mile-survivor-1972-bmw-bavaria/comment-page-1/#comment-168262

very nice !

[Double02]

1975 Peugeot 504 coupe:

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/07/28/rare-franco-italian-1975-peugeot-504-coupe/

I need a car very much like this one day. Without the auto of course, and a bit cleaner with matching interior. Some of the comments were educational since I didn't realize this car had the PRV V6. Can't win them all.

[E_cars]

SURPRISE!!!!

I love that one.

[Double02]

For Chris - 82 Peugeot 604

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/08/16/french-flagship-1982-peugeot-604-turbo/

Good excuse for a road trip to CA, well, except for that door damage and the auto.

[Flatlander]

Some stuff local to me

Fiat 124 Spyder (http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1972-FIAT-124-Spyder-w-Parts-car-NEED-GONE-W0QQAdIdZ221494803#) Who doesn't like a vert really?

Merkur XR4TI (http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1986-Merkur-XR4Ti-W0QQAdIdZ221795604) Perfect for giving Buck Rodgers a lift back to the eighties. Too Bad about the autotragic.

80 MG MGB (http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-Dependable-and-Fun-1980-MG-MGB-Convertible-W0QQAdIdZ222934858) Used to see a lot more of these around here.

64 MG MGB (http://regina.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-classic-cars-1964-MG-MGB-Convertible-W0QQAdIdZ216218660) I'd love this one. Evil thoughts.

[Double02]

'69 Alfa 1750 Berlina

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/08/20/boxcar-1969-alfa-romeo-1750-berlina/

The more I see of these the more convinced I am this will be my eventual Italian car purchase.

Even better if I could bring it back from LA in this:

http://bringatrailer.com/2010/08/19/1952-international-race-car-transporter/

Which I could then park on the street in front of my house as an extra 'garage', for all-around win!